Posts by White Dove

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I'm terrible at friendships!

by GoddessRachel in

jw
friends

here is where i cry and feel pity for myself: .

i'm terrible at keeping up with my friends.

i don't call them often enough, or i make an effort in the beginning and then i let it slide.

I e-mail or visit in person. I never talk on the phone because I can't. If I need to make a phone call, my daughter does it for me. I'm also a lousy letter writer because I view it as yet another essay to work on on top of my pile of essays for homework. Now, I hate letter writing. I don't have a printer at home, either. Hopefully that will change in the fall. I need to write to my grandmother. She always writes to me but doesn't have a computer and never will. I need to write to her using the school's computer so it will be fast and good. I don't like to write crap to my loved ones. Long hand writing is not my favorite way to write to a person.

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Text Message I Just Received From An Old Witness Friend

by str8?so is spaghetti..until you heat it up in

this is a text message i just received from a guy who was in my old congregation.

(ps, no there was no shenanigans going on there, i wasn't interested in this guy in that way...even though he was possibly the best friend i had ever had within jws).. "hi rob.

please come back to the truth.

White Dove

Know what I'd do? Continue the friendship as if there had been no shunning at all and see what happens. Say that you'd be happy to be his best man. But don't change a thing about you to fit his agenda. Just take him as he is and see where it goes. He sounds like he needs a friend that is as wonderful as you were to him. If he wants to be friends, fine, but he will have to accept all of you and not try to change you.

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What do you think when people tell you to just "Move On"?

by Moxie in

jw
friends

...i've heard that a lot over the years, and quite a lot latley... "just get over it, let the past stay in the past".

i always say, "ya, but...".

i've been writing a lot lately on my blog and just got through a big long thing on why i can't move on.

White Dove

Some people seem to feel that others should get over it in the same amount of time that they do. My grandmother is the queen of lack of empathy and understanding. She has some but not near enough to wear the empathy badge. After my divorce, she said, "Are you still pining?!"

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What do you think when people tell you to just "Move On"?

by Moxie in

jw
friends

...i've heard that a lot over the years, and quite a lot latley... "just get over it, let the past stay in the past".

i always say, "ya, but...".

i've been writing a lot lately on my blog and just got through a big long thing on why i can't move on.

White Dove

Heartless simpletons!

How about my all time hated phrase: "No one can make you feel bad without your permission."I believe that Elenor Roosevelt said that.

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Personal Experience I've Never Shared - I Hope it Helps Some Here !

by flipper in

jw
friends

o. k. how do i start ?

i will preface the start of this first by saying this happened many years ago - in 1985 when i had just become a new father myself to my dear son flipper junior, i'll call him.

when i explain this to you, some of this may appear comical, in fact, now that i overcame it years ago, i can laugh at it, but when you see the totality of the story- when it happened then to me- it was no laughing matter.

White Dove

Oh oh oh YES! Send a subscription to a gay mag for all of them! Oooo, to see the looks on their wives faces

20

Barf bag alert

by JimmyPage in

during the recent storms that swept parts of the u.s. a pioneer sister was at a get-together.

"i felt very safe since there were so many pioneers there," she said.

"after all, if we were all swept away, how would the preaching work get done?

White Dove

Un-freakin'-believable!

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Automatic reinstatement if teaching gets reversed?

by Fatfreek in

let's say your spouse admitted to having sex with animals, you went to the elders and they told you that you were not free to remarry -- but you went ahead, divorced the scumbag, and remarried someone else.

you, of course, got disfellowshipped.

since then, the society reverses its position.

White Dove

It's unjust but there is no retroactive reinstatement that I know of.

24

How many left - then went back?

by AK - Jeff in

i became 'weak' in the early 80's after being treated badly by a body of elders.

i had not sinned.

quite the opposite.

White Dove

Started college in 1999.

I left khall to smoke pot with hippie friends from college in 2000.

Gave pot and pipes to a friend and went back to the khall in spring of 2002 under extreme guilt.

Left again in October 2005 to study at home away from the khall because of crappy interpreting, crappy cong. member attitudes about sign language interpreting, and never went back.

Settled in my heart to quit completely the JW life physically and mentally on August 8, 2006. I actually made a vow to not be a JW anymore.

Celebrated first Christmas with kids in 2006. It was a very low key affair as it was our first and I'd never done it or any other holiday before then.

Started going to Assembly of God church in January of 2007.

Visited Baptist church on and off. Didn't like the go to hell and the subjugating of women so started going regularly to Assembly of God and liked it a lot.

Performed in Easter production with daughter at the church. It was a big production.

Started to see inconsistancies in the Bible. Explanations for Adams death but not really dead because the soul can't die really made me doubt the Bible. Revelation did it for me.

Visited a pagan book store and started asking questions while attending church.

Became Wicca oriented right after Easter of 2007.

Celebrated Litha with a pagan friend. It was so beautiful! The flowers, food, decorations. Just the 2 of us.

Celebrated first Yule in 2007.

Became a Wiccan petitioner to join a coven in about January of 2008. The first petition only gets you into their activities for 6 months. The second one, which I have not written yet, gets you into a coven.

I've been attending the UU church for a couple of months now. They have Wiccans there along with Chritians and Jews and agnostics. It's all inclusive.

So, there you have it, my journey to a spiritual path that I can actually walk on.

Bright blessings,

Chenoa

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Personal Experience I've Never Shared - I Hope it Helps Some Here !

by flipper in

jw
friends

o. k. how do i start ?

i will preface the start of this first by saying this happened many years ago - in 1985 when i had just become a new father myself to my dear son flipper junior, i'll call him.

when i explain this to you, some of this may appear comical, in fact, now that i overcame it years ago, i can laugh at it, but when you see the totality of the story- when it happened then to me- it was no laughing matter.